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#1 Flop

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Posted 30 July 2005 - 11:12 PM

I was sure there was a movie topic somewhere, but I couldn't find it anywhere, so I created this.

The idea of this topic is to tell us your thoughts about movies you've recently watched, and then we'll see if we can get some kind of discussion out of that. Please don't clutter up the topic with posts stating that you just saw some movie, if you don't have anything to say beyond that.

If you post spoilers, please say so in the beginning of your post, so that people have a chance to avoid them. :)

I went to see to movies this week. Here goes:

1) Batman Begins (MINOR SPOILERS!!!): Went to see it last tuesday. Very enjoyable, I must say, and IMO the best of the Batman movies, even surpassing the first one, which used to be my favourite. I very much liked the mood of the movie, although I think Tim Burton's movies still score higher on that count. However, the story of this movie is better than in any previous Batman movie, and I think that Christian Bale makes a much better Batman than Michael Keaton (who's the only other Batman actor I'll even bother to mention, as the rest sucked big time IMO).

The realism of the movie is also much greater than in the other movies, although it's still thoroughly unrealistic. Batman isn't invincible anymore, he has moral problems, etc. All in all, he seems more human. This stops about two-thirds into the movie, when he dons his costume, and seems to change from a somewhat regular human being into a flawless superhuman, from one scene to the next. For this reason I liked the first half of the movie better, and I suspect that if a sequel was made, it wouldn't be as good, since he would be flawless from the start.

In any case, I very much liked it, and would recommend it to any Batman fan, or anyone just looking for a good action movie, containing some stuff for afterthought.

2) Land of the Dead (HUMONGOUS SPOILERS!!!): I went to see this yesterday, when it premiered in Denmark, and was appalled to find out that it only premiered in one movie theater in all of Copenhagen. And a small, crappy movie theater - that I usually avoid - at that.

I don't quite understand. It seems that George Romero somehow lost his moviemaking skills somewhere during the late 70's/early 80's. I was hoping that the (IMO) atrocious Day of the Dead was just a slipup, and that Land would restore the zombie genre to it's former glory. This is not the case. Although Land isn't quite as bad as Day, it's still lightyears away from either Night of the Living Dead or Dawn of the Dead.

It seems that George really wanted to tell a story in this movie. A story involving more characters and a larger setting than any of his previous movies. Unfortunately he tries do so in less time than in any of the previous movies (93 minutes), which means that character development - which, in my opinion is very important in the other movies - is almost non-existant.

It also means that he has to explain the background of the movie as fast as possible. He chooses to do this by having some of characters explain to each other what's going on. Unfortunaly they should all know already, since they all live in the same city. I hate it when movies do this, since it always seems fake and stupid, and usually shatters the illusion of the movie.

The acting is pretty bad, although nowhere near the level of incompetence we saw in Day. Dennis Hopper seems as if he's wishing that someone would just shoot him.

The gore is good, which is to be expected from a Romero movie. Strangely enough, Tom Savini doesn't seem to have been involved in the special effects department of the movie. This may be just an error by IMDB, since he does have a cameo as a zombie in the movie.

One thing I absolutely did not like about this movie, was the intelligent zombie(s). I don't like it when the zombies run in movies (which thankfully they don't in this one), but thinking zombies is almost worse. I like my zombies slow and stupid, thank you very much. This is probably a matter of opinion, though. Also, I knew about the smart zombies before seeing the movie, so I had braced myself.

As any fan of Romero's movies knows, they usually contain some political comment. In the other movies these comments were fairly subtle, but in Land he seems to assume that people are stupid, and that he therefore needs to spell it out to them. This results in Dennis Hopper's character stating that "we don't negotiate with terrorists", and some other dude talking about going on a jihad. This is a bit much, IMO, and it isn't necessary to get his point across.

Another thing I wondered about was the rebel group in the city. They seem to play absolutely no role in the movie, seeing as how they don't overthrow the oppressors. The zombies do. It's also a bit strange that the good guy doesn't want to shoot the zombies at the end of the movie, saying "they're just looking for a place to stay". They are? Then why did they just eat hundreds of people, for no apparrant reason? The could have just gone around the town, you know. Oh, well.

All in all I enjoyed myself, but wouldn't go as far as calling it good. As I said, it's better than Day (but so is almost everything else), but nowhere near as good as Night or Dawn. It seems that Romero is unable to work with a "big" budget.

I'd still recommend it to anyone who likes zombie flicks, but don't expect a masterpiece or anything. Just take it for what it is: A mediocre splatterfest, directed by someone who used to be a good director.
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#2 Juni Ori

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Posted 01 August 2005 - 08:12 AM

My last two movies I saw in theatre were Constantine and Mr. And Mrs. Smith shortly after that.  Without spoilers I have to say few words of them:

Constantine
First of all, big disappointment. Keanu being pawn in chess of God and Satan and seeking for salvation. Nice visual stuff, but somewhat confusing and hard to keep track what's happening and why. Possibly my tiredness of catholic church gave additional minus to this movie, but honestly it isn't worth much. Also the end is way too obvious.
Keanu Reeves ;) Effects ;) Storyline :) Overall ;)

Mr. And Mrs. Smith
I guess you either love or hate this movie. Pitt and Jolie meet in South America and end up well-faring married couple in nice neighbourhood, not knowing that they both are secret agents and end up against each other. Especially when they fight at home! ;) Of course there's going to be a lot of devastation after a bit slow start, but it's worth waiting. If you have certain style sense of humour this is sure thing, although it is far from excellent. Storyline isn't exactly brilliant, but works, Pitt and Jolie are excellent couple and work stunningly together - and to be honest, there's more than little sexual tension between them (being damn jealous to Pitt  ;) ). Not for humourless persons!
Brad Pitt ;) Angelica Jolie :P Pitt+Jolie ;) Effects :P Humour :P Overall :P

Going to see next Sin City possibly today or tomorrow - my brother is working at theather, comes cheap!!! ;) Short review coming.
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Posted 05 August 2005 - 05:23 PM

Fantastic Four(Edit: Almost forgot; Mild Spoilers): I went to see this one yesterday, when it premiered in Denmark (I was lucky enough to get tickets the day before :)). I've always thought that the Fantastic Four were sissies, when compared to most other superheroes, but nothing else of interest was showing, so me and a couple of friends decided to watch this one anyway.

I gotta say I wasn't expecting too much from this movie, which is usually a good thing, because it means there is a chance that the movie surprises you by being above standard. Unfortunately, Fantastic Four managed to dissapoint me by being worse than what I'd expected. As I said, I always thought that FF were a bunch of holier-than-thou sissies, so it came as no great surprise that they were in this movie, too. But I'd at least expected some good fights with lots of vandalism. Well, the fights are there, but only towards the end, and nowhere near the scale I'd hoped for. That's what you get with the Fantastic Four, I guess, lot's of talk and precious little action. I could even have accepted that, if the talking wasn't so boring and unbelievable (listening to Reed Richards being condescending for an hour and a half isn't my idea of a good time).

I'm glad to report that they left out the annoying robot from the cartoons, but that's really not praise, since it's completely unthinkable that they should've included it. On the other hand, since it's Hollywood we're talking about, you can never be sure.

They did manage to make the human torch even more annoying than ever before (actually I don't even remember him being annoying in the comics). The guy scores some hot girl roughly every five minutes of his screen-time, which is a bit over the top, IMO. Especially with lines as bad as his.

As I said, the fights aren't overly abundant in this movie, but the little fighting there is, is not too bad. The effects are alright, although I think that The Human Torch and Mr Fantastic (how can anyone with a name like that expect to defeat the bad guys?!?) are poorly done.

The only positive surprise in this movie (for me) was The Thing, played by Michael "The Commish" Chiklis. He actually managed to do an alright job, contrary to my expectations, so that's a good thing.

All in all, this is not worth watching in a movie theatre, unless you're a die-hard FF fan (and I doubt such people even exist). My advice is to rent the dvd, or better yet, watch it when they air it on your local network, sometime in the future.

Have anyone else seen this? Comments?
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Posted 12 August 2005 - 10:18 AM

Hmm Iīm actually a big fan of the comics and I thought that they butchered it.

For starters, heīs called Van Damme, not Von Doom. They just made him sound more evil. There is also nothing about Vlad the Impaler in there, which was quite a strong plot-line in the comics.

Also, Susan was just a proper slut, which she isnīt in the comics, her and Reed Richards are just partners. Also, the building does not belong to Reed, it belongs to Dr Storm, father of Johnny and Susan.

Also, īVon Doomī as they call him, is not from a pretend Russian-sounding country, heīs from Holland.



And theyīre not really holier-than-though...

The Thing, as you said, was very well-portrayed, he was just about the only decent part of the film.

*edits* Oh yeah and they donīt get changed in space, Van Damme just messes one of Reed Richardīs experiments up and they get changed by that.

Bloody Hollywood.

Edited by PrejudiceSucks, 12 August 2005 - 10:19 AM.