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[Juni Ori]

No facts referring to ancient Greeks and Romans, and areas they influenced, accepted sex with animals. More likely they didn't, as there were obviously mocking pictures found and even some sort of literature, iirc. But judging anyways.

But homosexualism, paedophilia and how common they were, is eternal debate. I believe it was a little bit more accepted than nowadays and that those references to paedophilia are misunderstood. Can't remember who that theory originally came up with, but I do believe that those references into paedophilia were actually something very much milder.

[DeathDude]

From what we've discovered history wise it wasn't acceptable for that sort of practice to occur, although we don't have concrete facts there are some documents around that do not condone the activity.

[Sinke]

It is true that Ancient Greeks had quite different perception of sexuality. Homosexual relations were common, usually because males were going in wars which lasted for years. Without woman in barracks, they turned to each other. This was so frequent that it became acceptable. They didn't have "homosexual urge" as we find it, in psychological terms you could have been straight but have homosexual experience. People with a lot of money had young androgen boys in house, and their only purpose was to have sex with their employer ( male ).

Some people claim Socrates had a lover. This is quite probable.

This topic was actual few years ago because of Oliver Stone's movie "Alexander".  In that movie, the main character has huge guilt because of his homosexuality, and many historians claimed this was apsurd since homosexuals had no problems in that time, especially not with guilt.

As for animals, probably they had their part in the "party".

[PrejudiceSucks]

Alexander's guilt was basically just something to stop the film getting banned by Chrirstians in the US, though.

Plus the film was, in general, crap anyway.

[Tom Henrik]

Could we get back on topic, please?

[A. J. Raffles]

Tom Henrik, on Oct 7 2006, 10:48 PM, said:

Could we get back on topic, please?

OK.

[Sinke]

Oh come on, we are to discuss the current events.

As for cola.... well, everything pleasant is bad one way or the other.

[DeathDude]

Well think the main thing though with anything you eat or drink is that moderation is the key way to go, don't want to overdo it with anything really.

[BeefontheBone]

I think the "WTH?" bit was the way that it's specifically cola and it apparently doesn't do it to blokes.

[A. J. Raffles]

BeefontheBone, on Oct 8 2006, 10:48 AM, said:

I think the "WTH?" bit was the way that it's specifically cola and it apparently doesn't do it to blokes.

Well, yes. Not funny as such, but it does give you a brief WTH-moment.
This one's a fairly boring article, but the headline is quite funny. It sounds as though they were mislaid somehow.
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[DannyMc252]

Now thats a funny headline,

[Tom Henrik]

Sinke, on Oct 8 2006, 12:22 AM, said:

Oh come on, we are to discuss the current events.

As for cola.... well, everything pleasant is bad one way or the other.

Of course, but what does Socrates' mystery lover and the movie Alexander have to do with Animal Bordellos in Denmark, and the amount of sexual abuse of animals in Norway and Denmark today?

As for the cola news, it sounds a bit weird that it only affect women, but I guess that is because women are already predisposioned towards getting osteophorosis.

[DeathDude]

Indeed funny headline, sometimes wonder if it's intentional that newspapers and the like do that, just to draw attention mostly.

[Sinke]

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Of course, but what does Socrates' mystery lover and the movie Alexander have to do with Animal Bordellos in Denmark, and the amount of sexual abuse of animals in Norway and Denmark today?

Well, just to show this was regarded as more-or-less normal in the past.  

My turn:

In the midst of violence and despair in Baghdad, at least two institutions are working smoothly, according to September stories in, respectively, The Washington Post and Los Angeles Times. "Iraq Star," an "American Idol"-type reality TV show, attracted 10,000 contestants for 45 slots in filming at the downtown Baghdad Hotel, and will be shown locally and around the Arab world. Other reality-style shows are in the works. Second, the almost 3,500 Baghdad traffic officers still command high respect despite the city's other problems. Said an engineer, "The traffic law is the only thing nowadays that functions correctly." In fact, the Web site of the Shi'ite Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani contains a query whether it is permissible, even when a driver has the street all to himself, to violate traffic laws; the ayatollah's answer is no. [Providence Journal-Washington Post, 9-10-06] [Boston Herald-Los Angeles Times, 9-10-06]

[A. J. Raffles]

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What would the individual papers be called? "'Sing ho!' - Musical Representations of Robin-Hooddom, Merry-Manliness and Marian-Maidenhood", "'Wait, now... doesn't this make me rich?' - The Economics of Giving to the Poor" and "'Who does that bloomin' sheriff think he is?' - Gang-Warfare against Local Police Authorities in 11th Century England"??