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[Doubler]

I´ll agree so far. I´m also fine with 204 the way it is.

[Fruit Pie Jones]

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edit: im also not sure if i like this rule:

204. If and when rule-changes can be adopted without unanimity, the players who vote against winning proposals shall receive 10 points each.

but ill let you guys decide on it

I don't understand #204.  Why should players get points for voting against winning proposals?  Under the scoring system you proposed in the same message, those people could receive more points for voting against a winning proposal than the person who proposed it would get for its passage.  Something about that doesn't seem right.

[DakaSha]

thats why i said i dont like it... even without the scoring system i proposed.
it just seems that you could always vote against a proposal and rack up the points...

it is mutable though

[Doubler]

Well, I'd have some advantage with it, and you asked for our opinion. A1s is the one really disadvantaged.

But the rule speeds the game up a bit and it makes for a dubious rule subject to change and exploitation. It also gives people some alterior motives to vote against a proposal.

All in all it are rules like these that can really make the game interesting, imho.

[DakaSha]

thats what i meant. its ok because it can always be changed. it makes for a good rule even mabye because it gets the game strated quicker.

ok im just waiting for a1s and danny to agree and ill start the game

[Juni Ori]

DakaSha, on May 18 2006, 04:52 PM, said:

thats what i meant. its ok because it can always be changed. it makes for a good rule even mabye because it gets the game strated quicker.

ok im just waiting for a1s and danny to agree and ill start the game

Heh, highlighted typo!

[a1s]

oh, sure.
in future, if I haven't comented on somehing in 24 hours then I'm not actulay against it.

[DannyMc252]

Yeah, I agree. First game and all, best not mess it up too much ^^

[DakaSha]

if i make any mistakes please let me know.. this isnt really that easy to moderate at first...

for instance i just dont get the lawyer lingo in this case: if the rule doubler has proposed to be changed is accepted (or even if it isnt) what exactly do i do? the old rule stays as it is and a new rule is created at 301?

or do i actually change rule 202 and create 301 as reference?



edit: here im refering to this:

108. Each proposed rule-change shall be given a number for reference. The numbers shall begin with 301, and each rule-change proposed in the proper way shall receive the next successive integer, whether or not the proposal is adopted.

If a rule is repealed and reenacted, it receives the number of the proposal to reenact it. If a rule is amended or transmuted, it receives the number of the proposal to amend or transmute it. If an amendment is amended or repealed, the entire rule of which it is a part receives the number of the proposal to amend or repeal the amendment.

once again

[Fruit Pie Jones]

It seems to me that the rule ceases to be #202 and becomes instead #301.  I base this on the following:

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If a rule is amended or transmuted, it receives the number of the proposal to amend or transmute it.

At the time the amendment is approved, rule #202 ceases to exist, and rule #301 (which consists of #202 in its revised/amended form) comes into being.  That's just my take on it.

[DakaSha]

ok a reason why the votes should be pm'd is because otherwise people are going to be reluctant to vote first as it could be a disadvantage. i really think you guys should PM the votes to me.. ill say who was for what then in the post.


once the first two "rounds" are over you get 10 points for voting against rule changes that werent accepted... see what im talking about?

[Doubler]

Well, someone might want to propose a rule change then

[Fruit Pie Jones]

DakaSha, on May 23 2006, 03:32 PM, said:

once the first two "rounds" are over you get 10 points for voting against rule changes that werent accepted... see what im talking about?

Actually, you get ten points for voting against rule changes that are accepted:

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204. If and when rule-changes can be adopted without unanimity, the players who vote against winning proposals shall receive 10 points each.

Since there's nothing about the method of voting in the current rules, if you want to standardize it at this point (which really might be a good idea), someone will have to propose it, and it will have to pass a vote.  As it stands right now, we can vote via a post in the thread, a PM, a phone call, a telegram, snail-mail, carrier pigeon, or any other method that can be thought up.  Of course, if proposal 303 passes, some of those methods will be rendered ineffective, as the deadline will pass long before the vote is received.

[DakaSha]

erm yeah... same thing though



edit: btw your right about the votes thing... havta think like in magic the gathering here

oh and i just added the round counter because of the vote thing that happens after 2 "rounds". seemed logical

but like i said keep an eye on what i do... its pretty confusing at first

[a1s]

DakaSha, on May 24 2006, 07:26 PM, said:

edit: btw your right about the votes thing... havta think like in magic the gathering here

and how is that?

DakaSha, on May 24 2006, 07:26 PM, said:

oh and i just added the round counter because of the vote thing that happens after 2 "rounds". seemed logical

well we don't have to worry abot that part anmymore.