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[A. J. Raffles]

taikara, on Dec 16 2005, 08:51 PM, said:

I think even AJ would probably die in at least a few of the situations I've encountered...

Well, I could try if you save the game and attach the svg-file...

Nah, I'd probably die as well. Quite a lot of my characters die early, actually - that's ADOM for you.

[DakaSha]

hey thats a great idea.... tai send em to me and her (im leaving in a sec so another time)

not so i can show you that your a fool... ill try to get out of the situations then tell you how i did it.

its a great way to learn how to survive

[taikara]

I'm actually a very good tactician, I've been playing games all my life, and though I've never played a roguelike, there's never been a game I can't beat.

The messages don't tell you *where* the ant room is, just that there's an ant room on the level. And typically, I simply try to avoid it as a low level in the puppy cave, since I can't quite pick them off easily yet. Either by avoiding unnecessary rooms completely in my search for the staircase, or by running past as quickly as possible, and killing off the couple of spawned ants that aggro'd in a safer location.

If I always ran back upstairs every time I saw the message "you hear clicking", I wouldn't actually get anywhere.

However, although walking through the door into the ant room filled to the brim with ants annoyed me, it's more the dungeons in which I walk down into a summoning mob that is agitating as hell. There's no warning for that, and it's happened so many games in a row now, that I find it a bit weird.

The fact that I never find beneficial items, and only cursed or useless items is weird, too. Not to mention I rarely start the game with beneficial spells or equipment. The last two games in a row where the first levels of the beginners dungeons filled with water was pretty much the last straw. I know that everything is generated randomly, but random generation also tends to mean you catch a break here and there.

Edit:

DakaSha, on Dec 16 2005, 09:20 PM, said:

oh and you can exit dungeons during battle (at least between levels).... you just cant leave a battle on the overhead map. enemys will follow if they are next to you but its better then facing the whole room

edit: if you enter a crazy room..... get straigt out

Uhh. Then I know something's wrong, because every time I try to go back upstairs during a battle, I get a message saying I can't during battle.

Edit2: and just so no one accuses me of retardation, that happens on lower levels, not the first level.

[A. J. Raffles]

taikara, on Dec 16 2005, 09:28 PM, said:

DakaSha, on Dec 16 2005, 09:20 PM, said:

oh and you can exit dungeons during battle (at least between levels).... you just cant leave a battle on the overhead map. enemys will follow if they are next to you but its better then facing the whole room

edit: if you enter a crazy room..... get straigt out

Uhh. Then I know something's wrong, because every time I try to go back upstairs during a battle, I get a message saying I can't during battle.

What Daka means is that you can retreat from level 2 to level 1, but not from level 1 to the Drakalor Chain.

About the ants in the puppy cave, an easy solution would be to go through the village dungeon first. Remember, you don't have to save the puppy. Quite often you won't be able to anyway, so you might as well go to the village dungeon and try clearing the first six levels (remember to train melee and missiles as well as spells). Don't bother about Yrrigs just yet, just level up for a bit. Then, when you're a bit tougher, you can always go back to kill those pesky ants.

[taikara]

Actually, AJ, I think we have determined that there is indeed something wrong with my version of ADOM.

As I just clarified, that happens no matter what level I'm on (I haven't had a need to try to escape the first level yet). Trust me, if I could get the hell back up the stairs in those situations, I would have, I'm not so reckless as to try to take on an entire room of summoners as a relatively new (and therefore weak) character.

Furthermore, the version I have doesn't run on DOSBox. Do any of yours?

[A. J. Raffles]

What version are you playing?

I play the winbeta version, because I like the graphics better than those in the DOS version.

[taikara]

Hmm... I'm playing the winbeta version as well, but now that doesn't explain why I get the message saying I can't leave battle when I try to go back up the stairs.

Maybe I did somehow get a hacked version?

[A. J. Raffles]

That's really odd. My winbeta version runs without problems in XP. And I don't think I'm getting that message.
Wait, I'll check...

Edit: No, the monsters follow me up the stairs, but that's all. Very odd indeed.

Edited by A. J. Raffles, 16 December 2005 - 09:50 PM.

[taikara]

Hmm... thanks.

HAH! I knew there was something wrong!!   (tears of joy)

[BeefontheBone]

I'm running Winbeta 4 with no issues on XP (well, the Learned trait is buggy, but you know what I mean) - I did download the latest version for Linux x86 too, but haven't tried it since it needs a lot of setting up which I've not bothered to do yet. I can definitely climb back up stairs with only adjacent monsters following.

[taikara]

I'm so happy now.

I've been tearing my hair out in frustration, thinking how could I possibly be this bad at this game. It COULDN'T have been avoided, I tried everything, and everyone kept telling me that I just needed to learn, try different tactics, which I had been doing all along *sniff*

I feel so much better now, thank you guys  

[BeefontheBone]

Did you get Winbeta 3 by accident or something?

[taikara]

Nope, winbeta4...

[A. J. Raffles]

Have you tried downloading it again? Maybe a file got corrupted or something like that...

[taikara]

I'm going to in a bit