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[Juni Ori]

Tom Henrik, on Dec 6 2005, 02:21 PM, said:

HOLY!

I think it's safe to name A.J. the ADOM Queen from now on. Jeeeez

Gotta agree. Thank you your highness.

Now I've got interesting game on. I'm playing Dark Elf Priest and I just entered first time second level of the caves of Yrrigs. And I'm already on level 6!!! It actually works well your tip to keep myself strained (strained!) and my strenght has gone up from 4 to 7, which seems to be my max. Is there any decent way to increase my learning, willpower and mana higher. Especially mana, which seems to have max 34! And now I haven't used a single time any of my spells yet! Unintentional, but doesn't bother me. Don't have many offencive spells yet.

[A. J. Raffles]

Try to stay "burdened" or "strained" rather than "strained!", or you might fall down stairs and take damage. And keep in mind that it reduces your DV/PV and your speed as well. But you should be able to increase strength to about 16 that way.
Learning can be increased by reading, willpower through morgia roots (once you've got them, that is - make sure they're uncursed or blessed, though) and mana through casting spells. A sure way of increasing mana +1 that works every time is to eat a kobold shaman korpse. You'll need a way to cure the sickness, though (i.e. blessed potion of healing, the "cure disease" spell or a curaria mancox herb). Once you reach dwarftown, you can also train stats with Gart, provided you've got enough money to pay him.

[Juni Ori]

A. J. Raffles, on Dec 6 2005, 03:38 PM, said:

Once you reach dwarftown, you can also train stats with Gart, provided you've got enough money to pay him.

Milady, you seriously think I ever reach dwarftown? Wherever it may be...

Oh, a question. I know eating fire bug or whatever it was provides you resistance to heat, but what about others? Now, as I'm priest with cure poison and cure disease spells, I could afford testing, but any free of charge tips? And thanks for the kobold shaman tip!

Edit: one more question: is it totally random do you or altar change when you sacrifice on non-alignment altar?

Edit2: once more one question: what on earth is "tract of chaos"???

[A. J. Raffles]

Juni Ori, on Dec 6 2005, 03:42 PM, said:

Milady, you seriously think I ever reach dwarftown? Wherever it may be...

You'll reach it soon enough.

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Oh, a question. I know eating fire bug or whatever it was provides you resistance to heat, but what about others? Now, as I'm priest with cure poison and cure disease spells, I could afford testing, but any free of charge tips? And thanks for the kobold shaman tip!

*takes a deep breath* Fire bug and fire lizard corpses may or may not give you fire resistance. Fire drakes and any type of red dragon definitely give you fire resistance. Giant centipede or spider corpses give poison resistance (poison resistance stacks, so once you feel it's safe you should eat every spider corpse you find even though they're not nutricious unless you're playing a dark elf). All ant corpses on ankheg corpses give acid resistance (giant slug corpses even give you acid immunity, but they're fairly hard to come by in early game). All types of white dragon give you cold resistance, blue dragons and lightning lizards give you shock resistance. If you're extremely lucky, a blessed lightning lizard corpse might even give you shock immunity. Ogre and giant corpses may increase strength. Wight and wraith corpses increase toughness (up to 25 or so), but eating them draws your alignment towards chaotic, so you have to be careful. Eating the corpse of a magic user (black wizard, dark sage etc) may increase literacy and PP regeneration, but before you eat it, try to make sure it's not cursed. All dark elven corpses reduce strength but increase dexterity. Anything karmic gives you the blessed and fate smiles intrinsics. Quickling corpses increase your speed. There's a few more, but I can't think of them at the moment.

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Edit: one more question: is it totally random do you or altar change when you sacrifice on non-alignment altar?

No, it's not random, but depending on your alignment, the altar's alignment and what you want to do you need different sacrificing strategies.

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Edit2: once more one question: what on earth is "tract of chaos"???

It makes you more chaotic if you read it, but there are easier ways of achieving that. It's a fairly useless item, really.

Edited by A. J. Raffles, 06 December 2005 - 04:09 PM.

[Havell]

I'm pinned down in the Village dungeon (on the bottom level) by a troll who is much more pwerful than me (I'm level 7, btw).  I'm a human fighter, I can't seem to hit/damage the troll, even on beserk tactics and he's able to kill me with a few swipes.  Any ideas on how I can defeat this one monster?  Is there any way to pray and make my god kill him? (I haven't prayed at all this time)

EDIT: My cunning plan of trapping him in a room didn't work, turns out he's clever enough to open doors, and I can't lock them.

EDIT: Just had a mad ru naronud the dungeon and a near death experience involving me being trapped in a corridor with the troll on one side and Yggris on the other, one of them moved for some reason and I beat a fast retreat.  I think I'll leave him down there and come back later on.

EDIT: Damnit, dead.  Gnoll chieftain in the Infinite Dungeon (from a tension room).

[Juni Ori]

As far as I know you can only request healing or satiation by praying.

Now I've fallen in love with my Dark Elf Priestess. Especially as she is wielding adamantium broadsword (+0 / d7+10). She's also at level 9 and only drawback is that she doesn't have many spells.

[A. J. Raffles]

Juni Ori, on Dec 6 2005, 05:30 PM, said:

Now I've fallen in love with my Dark Elf Priestess. Especially as she is wielding adamantium broadsword (+0 / d7+10). She's also at level 9 and only drawback is that she doesn't have many spells.

Just play as a melee character, then. You can always learn spells later on in the game.

@Havell: You can't get a deity to kill monsters for you (otherwise that would be a too easy way of dealing with cats ). It's a bit late now, but possible solutions might have been:
-wands
-throwing a potion of sickness/poison/confusion at him
-missiles - especially missiles that blind or stun
-crystal of fire - works like a fireball spell
-sacrifice him (if there's an altar nearby)
-traps - either try to lead him over an existing trap or create one with a wand or by digging a hole and covering it with a blanket
-ventriloquism - confuse him and run away
-potion of invisibility
-spit if you've got the sulphur breath corruption

[Juni Ori]

A. J. Raffles, on Dec 6 2005, 06:58 PM, said:

-sacrifice him (if there's an altar nearby)

How can you sacrifice monster before it's dead???

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-spit if you've got the sulphur breath corruption

Corrupted already in Village Dungeon? I've roamed a bit further and never gotten much corrupted.

Also, now my Priestess got even better! She's wearing Adamantium Tower Shield (-2) [+11, +2]!!! And as if that wasn't enough, she's wearing orcish helmet, rusty unfortunately [+3, +2] {Pe-2}... Can't understand how somebody could save that bloody puppy?! I ran as fast as possible into the bottom level and there it was, dead.

[Kon-Tiki]

Hehe, just started out. Am a dwarven beastmaster who's a good learner, and with learning skills. I don't understand all the keys yet. Dunno how to enter that first cave, for example, or how to view my stats.

Edit: Already am dead meat. Met with a lone hydra that kicked my butt after I drowned a bit.

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Kon-Tiki, the dwarven beastfighter, was killed by a swamp hydra.
He scored 718 points.
He survived for 0 years, 2 days, 3 hours, 35 minutes and 23 seconds (42 turns).
Kon-Tiki visited 1 place.
His learning score was modified by +1 during his career.
He ended his adventuring life somewhere in a misty swamp.
He did not manage to vanquish any monsters
He had the following talents: Good Learner, Learned.
He had a final speed score of 100 (final base speed: 100).
He was not particularly religious.
He did not ask for divine help.
He was lawfully aligned.

Edited by Kon-Tiki, 06 December 2005 - 07:15 PM.

[Fruit Pie Jones]

Juni Ori, on Dec 6 2005, 07:09 PM, said:

How can you sacrifice monster before it's dead???

Get the monster to move onto the altar, then issue the "sacrifice" command (can't remember the keymapping off the top of my head).  Deities love live sacrifices, but there are some alignment restrictions.  (Basically, don't sacrifice anything that's the same alignment as your deity!)

Juni Ori, on Dec 6 2005, 07:09 PM, said:

Can't understand how somebody could save that bloody puppy?! I ran as fast as possible into the bottom level and there it was, dead.

I've managed it only a couple of times, and I think I've even managed to save Yrrigs and still have time to get the puppy at least once.  Basically, you have to be really lucky.

[Juni Ori]

Save Yrrigs? You mean something other than finish his sufferings? And thanks for the tip on sacrificing and it's quite obvious after all. The key is "O". Tiki, you get the keys from pressing "?" and "k".

[A. J. Raffles]

Juni Ori, on Dec 6 2005, 07:23 PM, said:

Save Yrrigs? You mean something other than finish his sufferings? And thanks for the tip on sacrificing and it's quite obvious after all. The key is "O". Tiki, you get the keys from pressing "?" and "k".

Hint: have you met anybody else in that dungeon who might be able to help Yrrigs?

[Havell]

It's better to save Yggris than kill him.  here's how:

get him to chase you through the dungeon back to Jharod (level 4).  he heals Yggris, he gives you all the items he drops when you kill him normally, it gives a much larger lawful boost.  It also makes Jharod think you mecriful, so he'll teach you healing (I always go for this quest if I don't have healing).  That's about it really

With regards to sacrifing live creatures:
-Be wary that you can be sacrificed also, even by the puniest of monsters, be careful!
-You don't have to be standing next to the altar, you just need to have it in your sight range (lead your foe onto the altar).
-With the aligment thing, you can sacrifice anything you like at a chaotic altar, the god doesn't care.

[Juni Ori]

Thanks guys, I have to try that some day. Now I'm wondering as I killed Hotzenplotz and went back to sheriff, who says: "Take dis reward as a sign of yer valor." But I got nothing. No money, no stuff... Stupid law-enforcer...

[A. J. Raffles]

You can only be sacrificed by other monsters if you're standing around on chaotic altars. Lawful and neural altars are perfectly safe.

Juni, are you quite sure? He ought to have given you a blessed marble amulet.