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[Potatoe]

http://en.wikipedia....school_shooting

Quite sad really. The first school shooting here. Discuss.

[BeefontheBone]

Pretty damn messed up, indeed. I was surprised by the stat about how many guns you guys own - 56 per 100 people, third in the world after the US and, for some reason, Yemen.

[Tulac]

Yeah but you have to count in that Finns have Juni.

Terrible thing that happened, though I'm afraid it's becoming more common in the world.

[Docktor_Worm]

"Humanity is Overrated", just the kind of stuff I would expect from a person who murdered  8 innocent people. Its a shame, but that stuff is happening so much now, its hardly news. This stuff is hardly preventable, someone that messed up and that far beyond reconciliation is nt going to be stopped. Its just an unfortunate byproduct of western culture that is sadly becoming a fact of life.

[Juni Ori]

Sad indeed. Now there has been several fake-threats to schools and that is frigging stupid! About the guns and how much we have them, Finns still do homicides mostly traditionally: with knives and axes. Also Finns almost always kill people they know well, significantly more often than in any other country.

[Mighty Midget]

As for that guy, I don't think nationality enters into it. He was a fruitcake: Apparently, he saw himself as some sort of saviour for "the master race". Utterly disturbed that one was. Tragic, for those who got killed and their families, but also for his own family. He was a complete mental arsehole in my opinion.

[Aristharus]

This kind of stuff really happens too often these days, and especially the media feeds too much off it. It took me a while to understand that this really is a terrible thing. At first I just shrugged it off. "Again..? Nah.." I'm just getting used to this kind of stuff in the news.

And once again, the media just won't lay off. There was just something on the news about the shootings. And all the daily tabloids are filled with headlines about it. Man, it happened days ago, and the guy killed himself, what *new* news can there be anymore? Still this stuff will be in the tabloids for months every time they run out of ideas of what to write about. It was the same with the Myyrmanni bombing (http://en.wikipedia....yrmanni_bombing) 5 years ago. The last headline I saw about it was over three months after it had happened, and the story was something in the lines of "Shocking news!! A new eye-witness: 'I saw the bomber in a bus three weeks before the bombing, or at least this guy looked a lot like him'.."

I'm sure they still sold a lot of the magazines because of the headline.

[A. J. Raffles]

Aristharus, on Nov 10 2007, 08:47 PM, said:

This kind of stuff really happens too often these days, and especially the media feeds too much off it. It took me a while to understand that this really is a terrible thing. At first I just shrugged it off. "Again..? Nah.." I'm just getting used to this kind of stuff in the news.

That's one of the reasons why it does happen, though, isn't it? The media attention appears to be a key motivation for the people who do this sort of thing and at least some of them seem quite happy to cater to the media's craving for sensationalist headlines (like that person at Virginia, who compiled a sort of media package - which was of course eagerly snatched up by TV channels, newspapers, etc), so in a way it's self-perpetuating. Which in a way makes it tragic in more than one sense...

[Aristharus]

Yeah, that was actually kind of my... umm, at least it was supposed to be a part of my point there. Got somehow derailed, but I was going to say that if these kind of stuff wouldn't get the media attention they do, they probably wouldn't happen as often.

I think this guy seemed a lot like that, too. Not as much as with the Virginia case, but anyway with all the videos on YouTube etc. it seems that he did this partly because of the media attention.

[Japofran]

Yes but I don't think it's primarily about consciously craving attention most of the times (sometimes it is). There are loonies thinking about doing this kind of thing, or about killing their wives or whatever, just for the sake of it, there have always been and there will always be. But most of them refrain, not because of ethical considerations (they don't have any), but because they would officially brand themslves as freaks and they're living as if they were normal people. But then they watch on TV that someone has done just the same they're thinking about, and then suddenly shooting your classmates doesn't seem socially unappropriate any longer, it's been done before.

Well to me it makes sense.

[chumloofah]

Maybe if all the nuts had a chatroom they could go to.
Then they wouldn't feel like freaks, because they couldn't possibly all be freaks and could share common depraved fantasies and stuff.

Yeah, that would make sense, but based on the number of popular cultures that are centred around being a freak like your friends there is one thing that is clear.
Freakiness has never been more in!
Like that really pleasant cannibal who invited a guy over so they could eat his *male genital* together.

I'll try and include structure if I post again, but I can't be arsed now, so just try and make sense of this rambling gobbledy-gook as best you can  

[Aristharus]

chumloofah, on Nov 11 2007, 09:11 PM, said:

Maybe if all the nuts had a chatroom they could go to.
Then they wouldn't feel like freaks, because they couldn't possibly all be freaks and could share common depraved fantasies and stuff.

Great idea, let's invite them all here. I'm sure they wouldn't feel that different, with Pigggy and Juni and such around.