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#1 a1s

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Posted 14 August 2006 - 10:09 PM

the rules of this game are simple:
you have to tell us how you would solve one of the worlds problems if you had piles and piles of power.
you allo may (if you want to) point out flaws in no more than 2 of the 5 plans posted emmidietly bofere yours.
you get (8 - 2 X the ammout of flaws found in your plan + 1x the ammount of flaws you found in other peoples' plans) points. (if you pointed out several different flaws in one plan, it still only counts as one).
each post has to begin with a sentance telling us exaclty which problem you are addressing currently.
you can only post again after 5 other people have posted after you.

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a1s: IIII I
beef: I
moogle: IIII III
tom:  IIII III

Edited by a1s, 17 August 2006 - 02:02 PM.

Those of you being liberal-art majors � don�t worry, advanced mathematics were largely omitted from this text in concern for your mental health.

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#2 taikara

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Posted 14 August 2006 - 10:51 PM

This seems like a game more than a discussion, so I'm moving it to the proper forum.

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#3 a1s

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Posted 15 August 2006 - 05:07 PM

well, I guess I'll have to start.

I will address the issue of overpopulation.
my solution would be the following, to force the larger nations to invest is space and cryogenic thechnologies and then send large colony ships tawards all nearby stars (with 1-5 mil people on board in frozen state). some of them should be able to find habiatble planets and signal to earth. we then divde earth population equaly (well approximately equaly) between these worlds.
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Posted 15 August 2006 - 05:43 PM

That seems hugely wasteful of human life - we can tell to a reasonable degree of accuracy whether there are any planets large enough to be potentially life-bearing around stars further away than that (or we certainly could with a lot less investment than your plan would require) - you seem to be gambling the lives of millions of people on the off-chance that they happen to bump into a planet which happens to be sufficiently Earth-like to support us, which is hugely unlikely. Granted, getting rid of a few million people all at once would help with the overpopulation problem, but the plan is unworkable with such a disregard for any ethical or moral concerns, or for current technology (it's a stretch to get unmanned rovers to Mars successfully - trying to carry millions of people many light years away is a long way away).

That said, I don't have any real solution to propose - human beings evolved, like other animals, in an environment in which having more than 2 offspring per mating pair was necessary to ensure survival of the species, let alone to ensure their genes are passed on - we now live in an environment where this is no longer true to the same degree (the replacement rate, averaged over the entire world, can't be much more than 3 children per couple I'd say). More workable alternatives would be modelled more on the Chinese system (although that has its own cultural problems with the preference of boys over girls - less so these days than when the system was first introduced AFAIK), limiting the rate of reproduction to one sufficient to ensure replacement. However, this would require a global implementation to allay fears of one nation or group becoming stronger than another - a political nightmare.

If we're willing to stray into eugenics, Karl Pilkington (he of bald round little head and monkey obsession) made an interesting point in an episode of the Ricky Gervais podcast - why shouldn't it be easier to give birth but harder to conceive? Weird at first, and obviously unworkable, but an interesting proposition. Technology, if we wanted it to be, isn't far from the point where we could control reproduction somehow, which would allow the limitation of reproductive rates (although given human beings' tendedncy to hide in nooks and crannies, again would fail to avoid concerns about people avoiding the measures). It also has its own set of moral and ethical concerns.

It's a tricky problem this one.

Sorry, didn't mean to write so much - I've not a lot else to do at work :bleh:
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Posted 15 August 2006 - 06:27 PM

no, that's quite allright.

however the point of this game is firstly to propose new stuff. so each post should begin with clealry stating the problem and it's solution.

P.S. this post doesn't count, it's just for explaintaory purposes.
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#6 A. J. Raffles

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Posted 15 August 2006 - 09:01 PM

View PostBeefontheBone, on Aug 15 2006, 05:43 PM, said:

Sorry, didn't mean to write so much - I've not a lot else to do at work :bleh:
[off-topic]Hey Beef, if you're that bored why don't you work on this?:P[/off-topic]

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Posted 15 August 2006 - 10:21 PM

[err... offtopic] well I guess I should file this one as "not very prospective to begin with and killed by posts irrelevant/disruptive (underline the right one) to the game". so what is our goal with this wikipage? [/offtopic]
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Posted 17 August 2006 - 12:46 AM

I would make 1/2 of the people Moogles, 1/4 Chocobos, 1/4 Cloud fanboys in good cosplay costumes.
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I would then mind wash everybody so they would act like their assigned roles.
The Moogles would go underground and hide in Moogle houses, popping up here and then to help the clouds. The Chocobos would run around the world going "keew" or whatever it is they say and also occasionally helping the Clouds. The Clouds would use their cloud-lyness to decide that since there is no Sephiroths in this world there is no evil so they will live happily ever after until they began to feel the darkness inside of them FF7 AC style and would then go beserk, each forming their own little society Lord of the flies style and waging wars with each other until they are all defeated and only one remains. Thus, the world's population will be decreased by 1/4, 1/2 of the population will live under ground in seclusion and hidden societys. 1/4 would aimlessly wander about making odd noises. The world will have more room, and nobody will complain because they're all happy go lucky moogles who will frolick in the kupo nut fields, or Chocobos who have un discernable speech so nobody will care even if they do get angry. Plus then the inhabitants of the nearby planet Xehanortizle X will be entertained by this charade, make a hit video game series out of it, a movie, and a book.

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Posted 17 August 2006 - 12:56 AM

Actually, that's a really great idea (well, parts of it, at least) :bleh:

Why spend a lot of money on space exploration and colonization of asteroids and whatnots? First they will have to get there. Then they have to make it liveable. Then they have to make houses to live in, and find a food source.

Why not, if ever facing overpopulation problems, build cities underground or in the ocean? We are here, the place is liveable, houses are easy to build and food can be arranged anywhere on the Earth (if people want it and pays for it).

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Posted 17 August 2006 - 11:22 PM

I'm a fan of underwater cities. Maybe just out a large pole in the bottom of the ocean that reaches up to the surface. it would function as elevator, "snorkel" and most of all, chimney.