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#16 greywolf

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Posted 31 May 2006 - 03:39 PM

I find that the problem I have with *most* rap is that the lyrics all revolve around sex... And that is the reason, imo, that 50 Cent gets those awards; he just happens to be the rapper that puts sex to music the best. It's ironic that the very fact that he recieved this award proves a number of things about the American culture that are, shall we say, less than honorable (according to my point of view).

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Posted 31 May 2006 - 03:51 PM

my problem is that you guys obviously still all judge rap by what you hear on tv and the radio...

i agree with pigggy... 50 cent does make pretty good club music.. thats about it. i dont think he deserves to even be nominated for best lyrics though.

its so funny to watch people thrash rap.. then say "anybody" can do it. then make a fool out of themselves. also as piggy said: its not easy. just for fun: get an intrumental somewhere... and write down some rap lyrics to it.. they can be about ANYTHING you want.. stupid, smart, about sex, about drugs about life, about gibberish for all i care. and make it sound good... i wish you lots of luck

edit: what im trying to say is i bet none of you would have managed to write "candy shop" as "good" as he did :ok: (and it SUCKS mad tail compared to alot of other artists even)

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Posted 31 May 2006 - 04:03 PM

I have made rap lyrics, when I was 11...

DakaSha:if you go into a kindergarden and give all the kids rubber schlongs they will prob just hit each other over the head with them
DakaSha:and you have a class of little kids hitting eachother with rubber dongs which must be quite funny (also Picklweasel knight I am)


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Posted 31 May 2006 - 04:12 PM

erm... so?

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Posted 31 May 2006 - 04:18 PM

And they were actually pretty good, or so I'm told...

DakaSha:if you go into a kindergarden and give all the kids rubber schlongs they will prob just hit each other over the head with them
DakaSha:and you have a class of little kids hitting eachother with rubber dongs which must be quite funny (also Picklweasel knight I am)


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Posted 31 May 2006 - 04:43 PM

True enough Daka, indeed lot of the mainstream rap we see is not really the whole genre of rap, there is lot more that is not as known or in the underground that is prob a lot better, it's just the way the music industry works here in NA the media shows so much of it, it's so hard to avoid, and really it's an award that again prob only looked at mainstream music not the whole *Brings back memory of stairway to heaven best guitar solo in every sing guitar magazine* :ok:

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Posted 31 May 2006 - 05:32 PM

http://www.rollingst...ts_of_all_time/

Like this Kurt Cobain, Johny Ramone they certainly don't deserve to be on that list...

DakaSha:if you go into a kindergarden and give all the kids rubber schlongs they will prob just hit each other over the head with them
DakaSha:and you have a class of little kids hitting eachother with rubber dongs which must be quite funny (also Picklweasel knight I am)


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Posted 31 May 2006 - 05:39 PM

Wow and I thought the list guitar world put out last year was bad, this one is even worse, no Joe Satriani, Steve Vai, Malmsteen, Petrucci, Dane, Friedman, Mustaine, Romero, Murray, Smith,  I can go on...

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Posted 31 May 2006 - 07:29 PM

If lyrics are the deal then Rakim really wins out.

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If you can see if you can solve the mystery
The answer revolves around your history
So carefully, I drop this degree
Scientifically, and realistically (who is god? )

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In eternal blackness, in the midst of the darkest night
Proteins and minerals, exist within specks of light
Solids liquids and gases, and sparks of light within
Infinite lengths and widths and depths and heights
No beginning or ending, the seven dimensions
Enough space for more than a million words and inventions
To travel through time within enough room to be the womb
Of the most high?s great mind which he will soon make shine
With intelligent elements in sight that he will gather
In the realms of relativity electricity struck matter
Energies explode he below to keep releasin
Atoms by the millions, til the numbers increasin
Til it was burnin he kept returnin itself to the source
The hotter his thoughts it gave the center more force
He gave birth to the sun which would follow his laws
All caused by his mental intercourse, who is god?

Chorus

He began to explain his craft, the master in the attic
He dealt with measurements his language, was mathematics
His theoretical wisdom of the numerical system
The complete number nine which means born or existed
He gave birth to all planets, inorganic, and organic
So you wouldn?t take it for granted
They rotated they own distance around the sun
And fully submit to the existance of one
And each one was promised everlasting perfection
If each one keeps spinnin in the same direction
To the east, and each speak the motion of peace
And harmony, and each show devotion to teach
The universe is to come, the whole world must go according
Know your galaxies and mirages stars start fallin
So stay in your orbit maintain safe and sound
Like the planets each cipher remains perfectly round

Chorus

From unconciousness, to conciousness
By knowledging his wisdom his response is this
A understanding, which is the best part
He picked the third planet where new forms of life would start
He pursued show and prove every move in order
Back to the source he let off his resources in the water
Climb his climax, where the climate is at, high degrees
See he start to breathe deep in the darkest seas
And the plan is, to lay in the clays to form land
And expand, usin the same clays to born man
In his own image our origin begins in the east
Culture rise to breed, with the powers of peace
Deal in equality nature?s policy is to be god
Build or destroy positively born life like allah
And each one was given everlasting perfection
If each one keep living in the same direction
And life was life, and love was love
We went according by the laws of the world above
They showed us physically, we could reach infinity
But mentally, through the century we lost our identity
Life start and ending, we got trife and started sinning
Lost touch with the beginning now ciphers stop spinnin
And what was once easy became confused and hard
Which brings us back, to the mystic question, who is god?
Sixty-six trillion years since his face was shown
When the seventh angel appears, the mystery will be known
Check revelations and genesis, st. luke and john
It even tells us we are gods in the holy qu?ran
Wisdom strength and beauty, one of the meanings of god
G.o.d. you and me ? gomars o dubar?
Knowledge wisdom understanding sun moon and star
Man woman and child, and so is allah

Chorus

Bear witness to allah, gave birth to all
For allah was all, and therefore, life itself
And the universe gave birth to man
The universe was man, and man was the universe
And the universe was always existed
And existance was life
And life is allah
And allah had no beginning because he is, what always was
Rakim allah, peace
Now who is god?

He actually manages to write lyrics making them meaningful and delivering the musical requirements that actually makes it sound good.

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Posted 01 June 2006 - 04:22 AM

Makes me wonder what rules and criteria they made when they evaluate different songs, and what they would define as being well written and what would not be...

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Posted 01 June 2006 - 12:22 PM

when it comes to "flow" i truly think you could describe it with a mathematical formula.

but other then that its really hard to define whats "well written" (when it comes to the sound of the rapping.. not the meaning)

what those guys at the awards were going for is mainstream succes obviously

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Posted 01 June 2006 - 03:08 PM

Indeed that seems to be the case, and really if it was given to some obsecure artist that isn't well known all we be hearing is wha who's that? Granted it could give them more exposure, but that idea hasn't caught on it seems. :ok:

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Posted 02 June 2006 - 01:03 AM

...:(?

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Posted 02 June 2006 - 01:05 AM

Obsecure?

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Posted 02 June 2006 - 02:34 AM

....oops
I was looking at the end of the first page >.>
My reply was to Ruffle's comic.
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And whats so bad about Kurt Kobain?