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Greatest War Heroes
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Juni Ori
, Mar 12 2008 11:39 AM
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#1
Posted 12 March 2008 - 11:39 AM
So, tell me who's The One who definitely deserves a mention here.
Simo H�yh�, sniper (actually rifleman, never used any optics) - 3 months in Winter War and ~500 kills. Record never beaten in any conflict by anyone. Hunted by Soviets many times, even huge price was set for his head, but enemy snipers were always killed. Some sources even claim Soviets used mortar and artillery fire just to get him. Finally he was injured to mouth in the end of the war and he died in 2002 in the age of 96 years. Rest in peace.
Simo H�yh�, sniper (actually rifleman, never used any optics) - 3 months in Winter War and ~500 kills. Record never beaten in any conflict by anyone. Hunted by Soviets many times, even huge price was set for his head, but enemy snipers were always killed. Some sources even claim Soviets used mortar and artillery fire just to get him. Finally he was injured to mouth in the end of the war and he died in 2002 in the age of 96 years. Rest in peace.
...70 years... LOL
#2
Posted 12 March 2008 - 05:15 PM
Dutch!
Not so keen with the glamourising on proper killing, so here's a picture of how war should be.
Snappy one-liners are a factor.
Not so keen with the glamourising on proper killing, so here's a picture of how war should be.
Snappy one-liners are a factor.
#3
Posted 12 March 2008 - 05:57 PM
Fun fact: The minigun in Predator is the same prop as in Terminator 2. Even though they sounded completely different in each film.
On topic: Robert Henry Cain is a cool British example. He took on six tanks single-handedly, at some points firing a mortar from his hip. He still found time to shave.
On topic: Robert Henry Cain is a cool British example. He took on six tanks single-handedly, at some points firing a mortar from his hip. He still found time to shave.
#4
Posted 12 March 2008 - 08:19 PM
I don't know any, so I'll just pick someone at random:
Ivan Diomodovitch Antoshkin
Participated in the Winter war. Commanded a regiment of bombers. In 3 months his regiment had performed 2936 sorties dropping 964 tons of bombs on the enemy. He personally flew 32 sorties, a large amount of those at night (bear in mind: this is 1940 Russia, so this is no mean feat).
During a critical moment in the battle for Moscow Anotshkin (by then a lieutenant colonel) from his his HQ managed to organize one of the first counterstrike against German tank and machine formations. His Division suffered heavy losses, but kep on fighting.
Died a general of aviation in 1944 with his second in command in an UT-2 plane crash. (not a very exciting death to read about, but you can respect an officer who keeps flying even when he is a general)
Ivan Diomodovitch Antoshkin
Participated in the Winter war. Commanded a regiment of bombers. In 3 months his regiment had performed 2936 sorties dropping 964 tons of bombs on the enemy. He personally flew 32 sorties, a large amount of those at night (bear in mind: this is 1940 Russia, so this is no mean feat).
During a critical moment in the battle for Moscow Anotshkin (by then a lieutenant colonel) from his his HQ managed to organize one of the first counterstrike against German tank and machine formations. His Division suffered heavy losses, but kep on fighting.
Died a general of aviation in 1944 with his second in command in an UT-2 plane crash. (not a very exciting death to read about, but you can respect an officer who keeps flying even when he is a general)
Those of you being liberal-art majors � don�t worry, advanced mathematics were largely omitted from this text in concern for your mental health.
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#5
Posted 12 March 2008 - 08:42 PM
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Already though, the commander of the outposts, Lieutenant Colonel Charles de Salaberry had been organising his defences. De Salaberry had many informants among the farmers in the area, and had accurate information about Hampton's size and movements, while Hampton had very poor intelligence about Salaberry's force.
De Salaberry had been so confident of victory that he had not informed his superiors of his actions. De Watteville rode forward and "approved" de Salaberry's dispositions, even as the fighting started.
De Salaberry had been so confident of victory that he had not informed his superiors of his actions. De Watteville rode forward and "approved" de Salaberry's dispositions, even as the fighting started.
Casualities were stupidly low on the Canadian side.
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#6
Posted 12 March 2008 - 11:59 PM
fun facts about snipers:
The best snipers in history were all on the eastern front of WWII (I see winter war as part of that). (depending on who you ask this could be anywhere from top 8, to top 50 of worlds finest, with figures on kills jumping up to 2 times from source to source)
There are wikipedia articles about Simo Häyhä in English and Finnish (obviously) and also in Chinese, Polish, Arabian, and several other languages, but not Russian. apparently they don't like to talk about it.
A less impressive kill-count was achieved by an American by the name Carlos Hathcock, who killed over a 100 people in the jungle of Vietnam with sniper fire. If you don't see why that is remarkable, go into you nearest woods and play hide-and-seek.
The best snipers in history were all on the eastern front of WWII (I see winter war as part of that). (depending on who you ask this could be anywhere from top 8, to top 50 of worlds finest, with figures on kills jumping up to 2 times from source to source)
There are wikipedia articles about Simo Häyhä in English and Finnish (obviously) and also in Chinese, Polish, Arabian, and several other languages, but not Russian. apparently they don't like to talk about it.
A less impressive kill-count was achieved by an American by the name Carlos Hathcock, who killed over a 100 people in the jungle of Vietnam with sniper fire. If you don't see why that is remarkable, go into you nearest woods and play hide-and-seek.
Those of you being liberal-art majors � don�t worry, advanced mathematics were largely omitted from this text in concern for your mental health.
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#7
Posted 13 March 2008 - 02:31 PM
a1s: remarkable in Winter War bomb raids to Helsinki was that over 95% of them went significantly off the target - thus mentioning his bomb raids in heroic thread seems little off-topic. Of course, much of his bombings may be against enemy (our) lines, but even then (in Winter War) Russian bomb raids were next to insignificant. Only later on the WW2 their bombings became more accurate and effective.
Jungle snipers are indeed totally different chapter, but hardly ever sniper ranges are less than 100m, thus making sniper activity in dense jungle area questionable and that number - even though it may be correct - sounds a little exaggerated. Not meaning he didn't take out 100 enemies, but meaning that hardly he took that many in dense jungle. Also note: significant part of Winter War was fought in wooded areas.
Jungle snipers are indeed totally different chapter, but hardly ever sniper ranges are less than 100m, thus making sniper activity in dense jungle area questionable and that number - even though it may be correct - sounds a little exaggerated. Not meaning he didn't take out 100 enemies, but meaning that hardly he took that many in dense jungle. Also note: significant part of Winter War was fought in wooded areas.
...70 years... LOL
#8
Posted 14 March 2008 - 02:20 AM
the fact that snipers usually don't work closer than 100 meters is dictated by the fact that they need to get away unnoticed*. in the jungle the same factors which obscure the enemy from you when you want to kill them, can work for you, when you are trying to escape. the best thing is shooting someone across a river or large elongated swamp, as these are hard to cross quickly, and don't have any trees in them.
*) by unnoticed I mean, that noone knows where they've gone, not that they can somehow secretly kill people from afar.
P.S. when I typed "unntocied" fire fox offered me just one choice of correction- Scientology. why?!
it also doesn't know what a Firefox is.
I guess I shouldn't have upgraded my dicttionary...
*) by unnoticed I mean, that noone knows where they've gone, not that they can somehow secretly kill people from afar.
P.S. when I typed "unntocied" fire fox offered me just one choice of correction- Scientology. why?!
it also doesn't know what a Firefox is.
I guess I shouldn't have upgraded my dicttionary...
Edited by a1s, 14 March 2008 - 02:24 AM.
Those of you being liberal-art majors � don�t worry, advanced mathematics were largely omitted from this text in concern for your mental health.
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QUOTE (Mighty Midget)
if BP has potied on Twilight Zone episode, I will strangle him
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#9
Posted 14 March 2008 - 05:45 PM
Sure you've not got a Debian version? Probably only recognises Iceweasel these days
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#10
Posted 15 March 2008 - 07:10 PM
Another record-oddity:
Fighterpilot Jorma Sarvanto who shot down 6 enemy bombers in 5 minutes.
Fighterpilot Jorma Sarvanto who shot down 6 enemy bombers in 5 minutes.
...70 years... LOL
#11
Posted 16 March 2008 - 03:07 PM
What is it about a beautiful sunny afternoon, with the birds singing and the wind rustling through the leaves, that makes you want to get drunk?
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#13
Posted 28 July 2008 - 08:22 PM
Not to Necromance or anything but this thread really irked me. What is a war hero exactly? Sounds rather redundant to me.
#14
Posted 29 July 2008 - 12:33 PM
Those of you being liberal-art majors � don�t worry, advanced mathematics were largely omitted from this text in concern for your mental health.
secret adept of the PICKALLONWEASEL order
QUOTE (Mighty Midget)
if BP has potied on Twilight Zone episode, I will strangle him
secret adept of the PICKALLONWEASEL order
#15
Posted 29 July 2008 - 06:06 PM
I don't think that is quite what Punch meant...
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