Replying to "roguelike" Category

BeefontheBone, on Jul 7 2005, 12:14 PM, said:

I second that. After playing Zangband, Nethack and more recently ToME and ADoM. I also think that a rougelike category is in place. Moreso since there are a lot more of these games out there...

in that case they should go to the RPG section though... no doubt

Yeah, it would be quite good to have a different section for them. It sort of dependss on how many we get though, we don't want to start of with about 4 and get about 10, an extra section would be a bit of a waste.

I've made a unilateral decision to move ADoM to the RPG category, but I'd still like a separate Roguelike category.

Why not drop the whole "text based" idea and simply call ADOM, *band, DOOMRL et al "Roguelikes" and the Zorks and other text-adventure games "Interactive Fiction"? That should pretty much cover all bases. Except for ZZT (unique) and Anacreon (strategy, now with semi-graphical frontend), so-called text-based games should fall into either of those categories :-)

I put Zangband there because Text-Based was clearly supposed to refer to text-based adventures rather than RPGs with ASCII graphics. That's why I suggested the extra gategory - it wouldn't be a problem if there were just those 2 on the site but it's almost certain we'll be adding more (Lost Labyrinth should be up soon, for instance).

You know I just found out that ADoM is in the Text Based category and ZangbandTK in the RPG category... thats kinda messed up




ok it isn't that bad

Well, each gets its own thread if we add it to the site - if you want to see more, get working on reviews and screenshots!

ah! wait... I'm posting this as a second post because it has to do with something completly different:

RL's use alot more strategy then common RPG's and most good ones have a Highscore List meaning they should (in my opinion but this is prob to much) have their own forum with a thread per game... one could post his/her highscores and strategies could be exchanged. True most of the games already have thier own forum(not all!) or one could use the general roguelike forums but i just like abandonia and reloaded more



just a thought

Triton with all respect(and I mean it) I think you completly missed my point... half of your post is about how much better RL's are. I KNOW... I LOVE THEM.

And Roguelikes pretty much never have a good story... ADoM's story is about a chaos gate that needs to be closed... Angband and Zangband and OneThousandOtherBand dont even have a story. In just about all the other RL's you have to get some orb of zot or amulett of yendor because it will save the world or some crap like that.

"Since when does the opinions of the general concensus matter?"

100% correct.. they don't matter one bit.

"I can't believe that people in GameFAQs still think Zelda are RPGs"

Yeah thats a joke...

"And what defines a "standard" RPG?"

I meant RPG's that most people would name if you asked them what a RPG is.


Raffles phrases it perfectly:

"I'd say it would make sense because Roguelikes form a distinct enough sub-genre of RPGs and they have their own following."

You can look at a Roguelike and say:"Hey look a Roguelike!"
or
"Hey look a RPG!"

but you can't call a RPG a Roguelike

Most normal gamers that love RPG's (Final Fantasy comes to mind) would never play a roguelike and I personnaly havn't played a normal RPG for long once I started playing ADoM.

Anyways yes it is kostas descision but so is this suggestions forum... and since I think Roguelikes should have thier own category and others don't we show the good the bad and the ugly and kosta can use our useless talk to form his own descision.